4:35 PM Landon Noll  ?it is NOT safe now

4:35 PM MarineBoar  ?Any ideas on depth of upper magma chamber's chamber  ?  ? ?

4:36 PM Landon Noll  ?there is, however some considerations whereby there may be limited access, such as to the Park HQ and Volcano house

4:36 PM Landon Noll  ?the key word is "considerations"

4:36 PM Prjndigo  ?(and further destruction)

4:36 PM MarineBoar  ?will the tourists get in  ?

4:37 PM Ade P  ?Greets Landon, any incite on the changes with the last VE event. It moved beyond the souther caldera rim and Tilt looks real odd   ?

4:37 PM Shiftess Faustus  ?Welcome home, Brass

4:37 PM HandsomeHanscom 07  ?I fell so bad

4:37 PM T Yooo  ?marine limited acess

4:38 PM Landon Noll  ?crews are going in to the summit area right after phase 3 of Collapse/Explosion sequence .. a sequence that its repeating about every 28 hours or so

4:38 PM Brass Tack  ?ty SF

4:38 PM Sara Miles  ?Interesting spike...

4:38 PM T Yooo  ?handsome you'll be ok

4:38 PM MarineBoar ?ty, good, it's the state's most popular attraction

4:38 PM Prjndigo ?We figure lunch tomorrow.

4:39 PM Landon Noll ?The last Collapse/Explosion sequence was unusual, Ade P. It is possible that the release was less than usual suggesting that the next one might be above average.

4:39 PM T Yooo ?yes these guys are getting very good at predicting the next "event"

4:40 PM Landon Noll ?The sequence did not go through the usual phases, so it is indeed odd.

4:40 PM MarineBoar ?Is the location on usgs eq map correct  ?

4:40 PM Landon Noll ?Repair crews are let in about 30 minutes after the phase 3 EQ and dust clears .. for a period of about 12 hours.

4:41 PM T Yooo ?landon did you hear about agung

4:41 PM Landon Noll ?The Jagger museum remains vacate. Recent visit showed significant cracks in the overlook area outside of the museum doors.

4:41 PM Landon Noll ?agung ?

4:42 PM Prjndigo ?Bali going boom too

4:42 PM Prjndigo ?some people just can't stay faithful to a single love 8(

4:42 PM T Yooo ?my. agung Bali Indonesia

4:42 PM Brass Tack ?Agung erupted today

4:43 PM T Yooo ?our first volcano to follow

4:43 PM Landon Noll ?A precision GPS measurement from a drone landing at a bearing marker near the HVO/Jagger Museum shows a non-trivial subsidence in that rim area.

4:43 PM MarineBoar ?ty

4:43 PM ChrisLX200 ?Is the rest of the caldera subsidence consistent with prediction ?

4:43 PM Ade P ?Thx Landon,location was also interesting too. Feverish waits to see what the next cycle serves up now :)

4:44 PM Landon Noll ?So it may me that the Jagger Museum may remain closed for a while even if the park HQ/Volcano house is opened for the public.

4:44 PM gary grant ?anything new about 8 and 22

4:44 PM Prjndigo ?I'm seeing an emission plume still. I think we're months to year off from HVO being safe, @Landon Noll

4:45 PM Landon Noll ?ChrisLX200: The overall trend for the subsidence has settled into a pattern for now. There are unusual cycles on occasion.

4:45 PM MarineBoar ?thoughts on subsidence/ slumping moving E from crater  ?

4:46 PM Landon Noll ?There may be protocols for accessing the larger area for those with protective gear. Those protocols are being followed by the Park repair crews.

4:47 PM Brass Tack ?I don't really understand why the crater is collapsing now. Is it like a sinkhole ?

4:47 PM Laura Underwood ?yes bass

4:47 PM Prjndigo ?possible slope change on UWE

4:48 PM Linda Kislo ?whats going on with fissure 8 today ?

4:48 PM Landon Noll ?MarineBoar: Our near-IR scans over the last 10 years showed that "Pele has sinuses". I.e., the caldera is far from solid. We saw one of the side chambers collapse into the expanded Halema'ma'u pit/

4:48 PM Landon Noll ?.

4:48 PM joe farfignugen ?I havent been on here for a few days and those new large cracks are new to me. Was there a large event i missed ?

4:48 PM Brass Tack ?TY Miss Laura

4:48 PM Prjndigo ?8's still in the shower, @Linda Kislo

4:49 PM MarineBoar ?ty

4:49 PM Prjndigo ?Like the Pietruszka article's diagram, layers and chambers

4:49 PM Brass Tack ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Pele has sinuses

4:49 PM Laura Underwood ?ya bass

4:50 PM William Burkhart ?same here i noticed Bob is gone lol

4:50 PM Landon Noll ?Well Brass: the Volcano Watch article of 2018-06-28 is am important article to read

4:50 PM Laura Underwood ?brass...sorry just caught that

4:50 PM BKelley Craft Table ?is it true 8 created it's own rain cloud ?

4:50 PM Prjndigo ?no

4:51 PM Prjndigo ?the heat was causing convective moisture that increased rainfall over it but the rain was predicted

4:51 PM ChrisLX200 ?Landon: what are the criteria you will look for to know things are changing at the crater ?

4:51 PM MarineBoar ?Dr. Noll, any ideas on how much deeper crater floor can drop into upper chamber area  ?

4:51 PM Linda Kislo ?lol @Prjndigo

4:52 PM Ade P ?They choose not to mention the lower chamber had started to depressurize/drain in that Watch article. Left the tin foil hats some wiggle room on that.

4:52 PM Brass Tack ?Will do. Just got home and am trying to catch up

4:52 PM Landon Noll ?Those are good questions, ChrisLX200 and MarineBoar .. the short answer is that we do not know in detail, but there is a reasonable model that the subsidence is following

4:53 PM Laura Underwood ?did we have a 5 today. hoping I didn't miss it

4:53 PM Doomchaser1 ?Odds of a intrusion from a aqueduct  ? in next 30 days..

4:53 PM Prjndigo ?you missed it

4:53 PM Laura Underwood ?dang,,,

4:53 PM Prjndigo ?it was dark too

4:53 PM Landon Noll ?The events that started filling the caldera after the 1790 explosive eruption show that there are mini-chambers under the camera floor. Our near-IR scans showed this.

4:54 PM ChrisLX200 ?Many thanks for taking the time to inform us Landon!  ? ?

4:54 PM Bill Goodin ?things changed when we started seeing 'cliff faces' develop instead of the slopes that were there before

4:54 PM Prjndigo ?we've been noticing steam activity coming out along the scarps behind the partially subsided sections

4:54 PM gary grant ?It's interesting that someone mentioned 8 making it's own rain storms. Why not! The storms were concentrated in that area only

4:54 PM MarineBoar ?Dr. Noll, I've read several papers and abstracts on the depth below surface of the upper chamber. Thoughts range from 1 km to 4 km. What's best thought on that  ?

4:55 PM Landon Noll ?We have a rough idea of where those chambers are when there are significant magma activity at the summit. Those chambers are contributing to the overall collapse with those nearest Halema'uma'u

4:55 PM Landon Noll ?doing the most to deform the surface

4:55 PM Prjndigo ?(( 8 is on a ridge at 800' ASL, storms climbing hills and going over ridges tend to rain ))

4:55 PM Ade P ?Chamber move over time, get semi destroyed/ rebuild its probaly a rats nest of sill and dykes also in the mix on top of the larger structures  ?

4:55 PM Landon Noll ?1 to 4km is a reasonable depth for the upper chamber ... there is more than one chamber level

4:55 PM Ade P ?* as well as, not literally on top of lol

4:56 PM Laura Underwood ?like a hive

4:56 PM MarineBoar ?ty

4:56 PM Landon Noll ?yes, a hive

4:57 PM Rachel Danson ?windy day

4:58 PM Laura Underwood ?when I go home and explore lava tubes, it reminds me of a hive. very interesting formations

4:58 PM Ade P ?On a lighter note (and i can guess which way you will go ) @Landon New nested caldera or still a crater  ? Also do you think if it keeps up we will see an overlapped caldera formation  ?

4:58 PM Landon Noll ?The largest magma chamber, by volume seems to be about 1 to 4km in depth and spans from the SW rift some out to about Pu'u O'o

4:58 PM Landon Noll ?but there are other higher pockets, or were until phase 62 took them out

4:58 PM gary grant ?@Landon Noll explain why we are having multitude quakes wsw of the volcano but without some magna showing up, yet

4:58 PM DigitalKnight22 ?how did the tree get so far into the view ?

4:59 PM Prjndigo ?Is that chamber along the interface line of Kilauea's mass and the slope of Mauna Loa's mass or does it dip down ?

4:59 PM ChrisLX200 ?Do these quakes affect the function of the many telescopes ?

4:59 PM Landon Noll ?gray: Are you referring to the swarm that is WSW near the water line ?

4:59 PM gary grant ?yes

4:59 PM Vicki Clee ?Anyone still up in UK - Mars' colour and clarity atm is amazing

5:00 PM gary grant ?also before the water line

5:00 PMtheirdaywill come ?where in the sky Vicki ?
 
5:00 PM chris carcam ?following u from the east coast mainland, where it just feels like ur in lava 100 degrees...keep up the excellent work, be safe

5:00 PM T Yooo ?hi day

5:01 PM Landon Noll ?Well Prjndigo, our models show that there is a magma column under the upper level magma chamber that goes down at least 35 km. The 2nd level chamber feeds into that column.

5:01 PM PC Quake ?hey day

5:01 PM theirdaywill come ?Hi T Yooo  ? ?

5:01 PM theirdaywill come ?Hi Quake  ? ?

5:01 PM Bill Goodin ?the window on my Swarm is 5 minutes. A typical 'sail' last about 15 seconds less. So, a signal that is not a Sail and peaks at 25hz and last <=2 seconds is a rockfall or explosion; ' one wonders'

5:01 PM Vicki Clee ?Right out my back door - lol - umm, almost due south about 45 degrees above horizon @theirdaywill come

5:01 PM T Yooo ?hi C

GAP?

8:33 PM gary grant ?thanks marine, I feel so much better

8:33 PM William Burkhart ?@Befriends Radio not near my notes either but was thinking @Landon Noll may have had some input

8:33 PM bluerockboulder ?M.Loa is silent today. Pahala deep quake series is back up, with the addition now of surface tremors in WRZ.

8:34 PM PC Quake ?M3.4 COQUIMBO, CHILE, Epicenter at 31.69°S 71.44°W and depth of 37km

8:34 PM Rhea Hall ?@bluerockboulder ty

8:34 PM bluerockboulder ?yw

8:34 PM Befriends Radio ?@bluerockboulder pahala should be nearly normal due to stressing erz

8:34 PM bluerockboulder ?I am watching WRZ

8:35 PM Landon Noll ?To the person who asked about EQ depth, Google "Past Week Monitoring Data for Kilauea" and click on the "Past Week Monitoring Data for Kilauea" link. Sorry, I cannot post URLs.

8:35 PM PC Quake ?M3.1 Antofagasta, Chile, Epicenter at 23.99°S 69.16°W and depth of 18km

8:35 PM Ade P ?@Landon Noll , unsure if you missed it sir, i wondered if the the feeding column for the second chamber was connected with the deep EQ's under Pahala  ?

8:35 PM Landon Noll ?Regarding Mauna Loa ..

8:35 PM Befriends Radio ?tnx landon, i see when i'm at home... thought there was an increasing today

8:36 PM Michelle Dunham ?I'm curious as to what is happening on the west side where the crater edge Is now at the caldera edge

8:36 PM Landon Noll ?There is little change in activity of Mauna Loa .. nothing to suggest a change it status since the start of phase 62 of Kilauea

8:37 PM Befriends Radio ?i think so

8:37 PM Jolly Jack'r ?What’s going on with the volcano in Hawaii?

8:37 PM Jolly Jack'r ?I just came

8:37 PM Landon Noll ?Re: " feeding column for the second chamber was connected with the deep EQ's under Pahala" that is doubtful given the depth of those EQs vs. the suspected location of the magma column

8:38 PM Jolly Jack'r ?What’s happening?

8:38 PM Landon Noll ?Re: "happening on the west side where the crater edge Is now at the caldera edge" ... that is where we located magma side chambers.

8:38 PM William Burkhart ??? ok I see thank you

8:38 PM Jolly Jack'r ?It’s erupting!?

8:39 PM Jolly Jack'r ?Holy cow.

8:39 PM ChrisLX200 ?No eruption here at the summit

8:39 PM aab baa ?Jolly just scroll up chat and start read...lot's of info....

8:39 PM Befriends Radio ?jolly, halema'uma'u will no erutions occur, most what you see is subsiding / rockfall

8:39 PM Landon Noll ?The largest west and near surface side chambers collapsed with the expansion and subsidence of Halema'uma'u ... others to the west may follow. The larger near surface side chambers are to the East.

8:40 PM MarineBoar ?@Jolly Jack'r pls, check out this link ?? volcanoes. usgs. gov/observatories/hvo/hvo_volcano_watch.html (remove spaces from addy)

8:40 PM Jolly Jack'r ?Oh

8:40 PM Jolly Jack'r ?It’s just shaking

8:40 PM Michelle Dunham ?Is the west still expected to hold up or will that continue to expand  ?

8:40 PM Rachel Danson ?yep

8:40 PM Jolly Jack'r ?Marine I can’t run I’m on tablet

8:40 PM Landon Noll ?Well Jolly Jack'r, Kilauea has been in continuous eruption for 35.5 years, so yes it is still erupting

8:42 PM MarineBoar ?Dr. Noll, could we see a collapse of the eastern storage chambers without effecting Fis8 flow ?

8:42 PM Landon Noll ?I am hoping that the access protocol for those with protective gear and communication gear can be relaxed enough to permit a near-IR scan around the August new moon. If it does, I will be onsite.

8:42 PM Landon Noll ?I miss all of those nice "wiggles" ??

8:43 PM aab baa ?lol

8:43 PM Befriends Radio ???

8:43 PM Landon Noll ?Well MarineBoar, the eastern I spoke of are within 200m of the surface, so their collapse would not impact the magma feed going into the East Rift zone and to Fissure 8

8:45 PM Michelle Dunham ?Is lava expected to come out on the SW rift zone?

8:45 PM Landon Noll ?yes, Doomchaser1 that is one possibility .. however we would expect that the rate of events to decrease over time
 
8:45 PM MarineBoar ?ty. To answer to some who visit 'other' youtube sites, are we safe from the Helina slum ?

8:45 PM Befriends Radio ?btw any news about #8 if there is increased flow? See a lot of overspills

8:46 PM Landon Noll ?Well Michelle, the EQ pattern suggests a simple subsidence .. we would expect to see an EQ swarm the likes we saw when the fissures on the far east began to open

8:46 PM Landon Noll ?before lava would surface in the WSW

8:47 PM Michelle Dunham ?Ty Landon

8:47 PM lectrikdog ?visibility: horrible

8:47 PM Befriends Radio ?prj you can see a small diff. in shading and colouring of fresh and old lava, so i had the conclusion 'bout that

8:47 PM Landon Noll ?the flow along the east rift zone has a pattern of variable flow .. it has been doing that for at least 30 years, so we have become used to flow variability

8:48 PM Befriends Radio ?thas also right prj... just wait for the night :)

8:49 PM RIP XXXTENTACION WE WILL MISS YOU ?im a natural disasters geek

8:49 PM Landon Noll ?It is very unlikely that we would be surprised with any lava along the west rift zone. One would expect significant EQ swarms, tilt meter reactions and gas venting before that would happen

8:49 PM Befriends Radio ?until i happens to yourself @RIP XXXTENTACION WE WILL MISS YOU

8:50 PM RIP XXXTENTACION WE WILL MISS YOU ?i live in texas

8:50 PM RIP XXXTENTACION WE WILL MISS YOU ?sooo ya

8:50 PM Landon Noll ?BTW: The fuzziness you are seeing in this feed is not due to camera problems. Just looked at the raw feed of the lower image and it is fine right now.

8:51 PM Rachel Danson ?John are you online did you touch my computer cause it froze

8:51 PM RIP XXXTENTACION WE WILL MISS YOU ?hawaii is too far out to get to California @Landon Noll

8:51 PM RIP XXXTENTACION WE WILL MISS YOU ?me too

8:51 PM Befriends Radio ?doom, i switches manually to 480 and it's ok

8:51 PM ChrisLX200 ?Perfect here and I'm in the UK

8:52 PM Rachel Danson ?mine wont load big surprise

8:52 PM RIP XXXTENTACION WE WILL MISS YOU ?this makes me kinda sad

8:52 PM Landon Noll ?Sorry Doomchaser1, the raw feed from the summit has not been touched and remains crisp

8:52 PM Rachel Danson ?its back

8:52 PM Ade P ?@ Landon the reason i asked about Pahala EQ's and the magma column was reading the following which quoted correspondence with USGS --> volcanocafe(.)org/when-pinatubo-turned-the-tide/#comment-23064

8:52 PM Holly Jensen ?oddly it has been crystal clear since I got here. and that down pour looks awesome. wish we had one right now.

8:53 PM Landon Noll ?for example from the raw feed I can clearly read the timestamp in the upper left corner

8:53 PM PC Quake ?M2.1 Aegean Sea, Epicenter at 39.49°N 25.88°E and depth of 13km

8:53 PM ChrisLX200 ?Is analysis of lava samples from F8 telling you anything about its source?

8:54 PM Ade P ?"we believe mark the subsurface conduit from the mantle hotspot (greater than 40 km depth) to the magma storage area beneath the summit of Kilauea (about 3-5 km depth)" Guessing that changed lol

8:54 PM Befriends Radio ?brb

8:54 PM RIP XXXTENTACION WE WILL MISS YOU ?[message deleted]

8:54 PM PC Quake ?ok

8:55 PM Landon Noll ?Well Ade P, it depends on where you are talking about

8:55 PM bluerockboulder ?@Landon Noll ChrisLX200? asked: Is analysis of lava samples from F8 telling you anything about its source?

8:55 PM Rachel Danson ?and the winner of longest user id is....

8:56 PM Landon Noll? the magma feed down the rift zone is believed to be higher than the point where the column from the 2nd chamber feeds into the first major chamber.

8:57 PM Landon Noll? The first major chamber is believed to extend out to Pu'u O'o at some level .. or that the feed into the Pu'u O'o has become very wide until it reaches Pu'u O'o

8:57 PM Landon Noll ?Re: "analysis of lava samples from F8 telling you anything about its source" ...

8:57 PM Michelle Dunham ?Where would we find the best schematics of Kilauea s plumbing system?

8:58 PM Space Ace ?Hows fissure 22 toady?

8:58 PM Landon Noll? It suggest that dissolved gases are going from liquid to gas in the vicinity of the fissure system or as the magma approaches that general area.

8:59 PM Rachel Danson?over loaded lol

8:59 PM bluerockboulder ?@Landon Noll Extract: Petruszka good reference for schematic of magma reservoirs?

8:59 PM Kimberly D Kulcsar ?ML3.0 I thought 3.1 was magnitude. What are the other numbers for?

8:59 PM G LG?Amazing info! So appreciated!

8:59 PM Michelle Dunham ?@Space Ace fissure 22 is froggy not toady

9:00 PM Ade P ?*Landon

9:00 PM Landon Noll ?One thing to watch for is a point somewhere between the summit and the fissure zone where gas starts to come put in significant amounts. Such a "bleed-off" would signal a possible lava flow reduction

9:00 PM Kimberly D Kulcsar ?These earthquakes are on top of each other. What does this mean?

9:00 PM Rachel Danson? she is a shaken

9:00 PM PC Quake ?3.6 Hawaii

9:01 PM Landon Noll ?Re: "good reference for schematic of magma reservoirs" well we have models, but those models too often fail has Kilauea does unexpected things

9:01 PM Space Ace? froggy Toady?

9:02 PM ChrisLX200? So there is nothing in the lava analysis which may suggest feed from a lower decollement? Something I read (and probably mis-understood!)

9:02 PM Landon Noll ?Re: "earthquakes are on top of each other" depends on the magnitude .. there are harmonic events (usually Mag 1-2) that mean one thing whereas the Mag 3-4 events another

9:03 PM Kimberly D Kulcsar ?Thank you

9:03 PM Brass Tack? Am back maybe. internet issues

9:04 PM Mike Singleton ?Was there something big going on last night

9:04 PM bluerockboulder ?If the magma under Fissure 8 is under enough pressure to contain gases in solution, does it follow that it is at some depth even as it approaches F8? @Landon Noll

9:04 PM MarineBoar? wb, brass

9:04 PM Desertpacrat?wb

9:04 PM Rachel Danson ?I tried to blame John but he wasn't here

9:04 PM Landon Noll? Well folks speaking of volcanic pluming where the sun does not shine .. I am schedule for a colonoscopy tomorrow which means I'm due, now, to drink stuff that will cause me to erupt! ?? So I must

9:04 PM Michelle Dunham ?Haven't seen John

9:04 PM Brass Tack ?thanks MB and Desert

9:05 PM John Stark ?what did i do now?

9:05 PM bluerockboulder ?oh my TMI Dr. Noll.

9:05 PM Ade P ?Ugh nasty but thankyou taking time to answer Q's Landon

9:05 PM Michelle Dunham ?@Landon Noll been there done that

9:05 PM G LG ?Have fun at the movies Dr. Noll :)

9:05 PM ChrisLX200? Oh sorry to hear that! My wife had the same last week. I will not elaborate... ??

9:05 PM Landon Noll? leave my keyboard and site on the "throne" unitil my Magnitude 5 clearing eruption comes out ??

9:05 PM MarineBoar? study hard for the tes, @Landon Noll , thank you for your time today 

9:06 PM Kimberly D Kulcsar ?Mr. Landon, I know what you mean. Lol

9:06 PM Laura Underwood? Dr get a good collection of reading materials and hang on

9:06 PM Landon Noll ?best wishes and see you after my personal phase 3 event ??

9:06 PM Kimberly D Kulcsar ?Sorry Mr. Noll

9:06 PM Befriends Radio ?Landon.. diarrhea? :D

9:06 PM Landon Noll? will do

9:06 PM ChrisLX200? That was a brilliant education you provided Dr.Noll, really appreciate your time.

9:06 PM Rachel Danson ?delete

9:06 PM Laura Underwood ?definitely appreciate

9:07 PM Michelle Dunham? Thanks is was great as usual to speak with you

9:07 PM bluerockboulder ?ty

9:07 PM WayToGo Oz? Thanks Dr Noll

9:07 PM Space Ace ?We should have a live cam from a drone supplied by the usgs 24-7

9:07 PM G LG ??? Thanks so much!

9:07 PM PC Quake ?thank you Landon

9:07 PM Brass Tack? Take care of yourself Landon. I read the article you recommended. Very interesting thanks

9:07 PM John Stark? ?? well nothing vanished that i know of today....i see that missing graph is still missing. It went poof when i came on last night ??

9:07 PM Michelle Dunham ?Lol John

9:08 PM Rachel Danson? I knew you were to blame you were just hiding

9:08 PM Red _Leader ?is it still going

9:08 PM Michelle Dunham ?He was lurking Rachel

9:08 PM Befriends Radio ?Space, would be nice, but they often share a vid like yesterday on twitter the shot with a dji mavik ro

9:08 PM John Stark? apparently.... so what did i do this time ??

9:09 PM Rachel Danson ?everything lol

9:09 PM bluerockboulder ?recap: one item. He was not aware of the flurry at WRZ, surface tremors at Pahala. Nevertheless, I took his answer to mean it should be watched.

9:09 PM John Stark?i see....

9:09 PM aab baa? Thank You Landon Noll